Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Rodcast 93: People We Don't Want in the Celestial Kingdom

We talked more 2 Nephi and we talked about people we don't want in the Celestial Kingdom (although honestly we sort of copped out by making an object lesson of the very concept and dismissing it entirely (spoiler alert)).

Mostly though we responded to YOUR comments.

We flirted with the idea of talking about The Holy Ghost, the person. Also I think I hate polygamy.

All this and Lent!

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Next week: fasting and different methods of fasting.


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  2. Mardi Gras, in French, means "Fat Tuesday" (Mardi = Tuesday, Gras = grease or fat). It kicks into high gear in New Orleans as of February 2 and is at its apex on Fat (Shrove) Tuesday, the day before Ash Wednesday.

    Check out the EFY version of "We'll Bring the World His Truth" for (part of) the Young Women Theme set to music. Isn't half bad if you ask me (and that's saying something).

    Enjoyed the discussion of the need to pee in the next life.

    I think the cremation question goes back to the value of the physical body in LDS theology. A lot of people think that that applies after the spirit has left the body in death. But, like we've established, God can bring your body back without much don't know there's any solid theological backup for a stand against cremation, body donation, etc.

    Receiving communion in your mouth is optional. Most people receive it in their hand. I think that only came in after Vatican II in the '60s, though...before that, it was only by mouth. And yes, they still serve wine at some Masses...usually on Sundays or important days like Christmas, Easter, etc.

    Hosts, or the 'wafers' used for communion, are usually made by religious orders or other Church entities. No wine in there that I know of, considering the wide variety of ages receiving communion. They are usually pretty dry, wheat-based pieces. Nothing too exciting.

    "For the Strength of the Hills" is actually a Waldensian hymn. I remember S. Michael Wilcox telling my Institute class about that...that we think of the Wasatch Front when we sing that hymn, but it is actually from northern Italy. Pretty cool. Well-performed as always, Pd.

    I like what Jn's MP said about the differences between the people in each kingdom. Celestial people ARE good, they aren't just doers of good things.

    During Lent, Catholics only fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. There is no meat consumption on Fridays during Lent.

    Did you see Elizabeth Smart and her (Scottish) husband frolicking on the beach, he in his kilt and she in her wedding dress, after their wedding?

    There's a good Spencer W. Kimball quote (I think) about how sex is not just for procreation:

    “We know of no directive from the Lord that proper sexual experience between husbands and wives need be limited totally to the procreation of children, but we find much evidence from Adam until now that no provision was ever made by the Lord for indiscriminate sex.” (Spencer W. Kimball, Ensign, Oct. 1975, p. 4.)

    I remember when the missionaries were teaching me and they said that Church members fasted every month. I thought there was no way I could do it. Catholics only fast for an hour before receiving communion, and then all day Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. Every month for multiple meals...oy. Fasting, if taken seriously and attended with prayer and pondering and such, can be very powerful. It goes well beyond the food element. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the topic.


  3. OK, I understand the challenge in singing 'School Thy Feelings' (I don't think I've ever sung or heard it sung). I offer up a new challenge; Can Pd sing 'Brightly Beams our Father's Mercy' to the tune of 'Should you feel inclined to Censure?' ;-)